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Underrated...
Wed, 09/21/2005 - 7:47am
Who do you think is underrated as a player or just doesn't get as much recognition as they deserve?
I'll kick it off. Sitting here listening to Infectious Grooves, I think Robert Trujillo is one of those underrated bassists.
The stuff he played with Infectious Grooves is amazingly fast and funky. I'm a huge Metallica fan but I think being in that band is a waste of pure talent.
So hooja think, huh?
Wed, 09/21/2005 - 8:08am
#2
Tony Kinal from No Doubt, never gets any props. And he is one of the tasitest bassists out there. Relisten to Tragic Kindom and you'll know what I am talking about.
Wed, 09/21/2005 - 8:46am
#3
Would have to agree with Mick Karn, Halfamind. His solo stuff is really quite strange - it surprised me a lot.
Ok, maybe Trujillo gets a lot of attention but I think its by association with Ozzy and Metallica, and not necessarily because people know he really can play and knows his stuff.
Wed, 09/21/2005 - 9:08am
#4
Man underated huh. There is this dude, wears funny glasses, black guy, plays funny shaped basses, what the hell is his name? Oh yeah Tootsie or something like that. Really underated. 
Ok now to be serious I always thought Rudy Sarzo was the most underated bassist. Can't even really explain it other than he has been the foundation behind so many great bands yet you never hear about him. Also right now I am really getting into Garry Beers playing style. Very simple and solid yet funky as hell when necessary. I been watching too much Rockstar INXS. 
H
Wed, 09/21/2005 - 11:29am
#5
the bass players from Sublime and Blind Melon are underrated, IMHO. dude from Foghat too. dude from Non Point is pretty chillin too
Wed, 09/21/2005 - 3:19pm
#6
I have to agree with snuff. Tony Kanal is a wicked player.
Another player who comes to mind is Abe Laboriel Sr.
His lists of credits is amazing, and his playing.... well if you haven't heard him, you GOT to check him out.
Wed, 09/21/2005 - 3:53pm
#7
Les Claypool... I mean he is a legend, but if you ask any averge joe... they wont know who he is
Its depressing
Wed, 09/21/2005 - 3:56pm
#8
I agree that Mick Karn deserves a lot more recognition, he played trombone before picking up the bass but to use his trombonist mind on the bass is a real feat. And here comes a couple of others:
*Muzz Skillings -original living color ugly
*Nelson -New model army
*Gazza -China crisis (his line on fire and steel... wow!
..and of course, we're all waiting for Clatters break-through.
Wed, 09/21/2005 - 4:45pm
#9
Quote (snuffdogg @ Sep. 21 2005,9:08) wrote:
Tony Kinal from No Doubt
I agree, surprisingly enough. I think Stu Cook from CCR deserves some more credit as well. Matt Freeman from Op Ivy/Rancid is amazing also.
Wed, 09/21/2005 - 7:06pm
#10
John Campbell from Lamb of God. After watching the LOG Killadelphia DVD I've got a tremendous amount of respect for him. He rarely, if ever, is actually heard on the CD but the stuff he has to play would tie my fingers in knots. And from what I saw he's a pretty down to earth guy.
Wed, 09/21/2005 - 8:29pm
#11
hey Headle, you heard of this guy tick, maybe it was mosquito or something he is prety good. I think he plays with The Luke Warm Jalapenos or some such band like that.
I can't think of the guys name (Victor something I think), but the dude from Cake was prety good. Seems like he had some pretty inventive and funky bass lines. Of course I only ever heard their first album.
Wed, 09/21/2005 - 8:32pm
#12
looked it up, his name was Victor Damiani
Wed, 09/21/2005 - 9:01pm
#13
Quote (Melker @ Sep. 21 2005,4:56) wrote:
I agree that Mick Karn deserves a lot more recognition, he played trombone before picking up the bass but to use his trombonist mind on the bass is a real feat.
Hmmmm... 'bone was my first instrument...
yeah, you're right... considering my playing, quite a feat!
Wed, 09/21/2005 - 9:56pm
#14
The most underrated bass player that comes to mind is................Me. I think I am my own worse critic, so I'm never giving myself the recognition I feel I deserve.:D
Wed, 09/21/2005 - 9:59pm
#15
Same
Thu, 09/22/2005 - 9:37am
#16
Billy Gould from Faith No More,.. one of my all time favourites and a huge influence on my playing.. yet so many people (even fellow uglies) look at me with a huge who??? whenever i mention him. for a band that does 8 billion styles of music, he's always bang on.
Thu, 09/22/2005 - 10:12am
#17
Two bands that Ive never really been into with great bass players are No doubt, and ready for this......Kaja koogoo. I dont dig their music much, but the B.P. kicks. That and maybe the guy from 311.
Thu, 09/22/2005 - 10:43am
#18
Hey I was a 'bone player at one time as well. I can't believe no one else thinks Rudy Sarzo.
H
Thu, 09/22/2005 - 2:08pm
#19
well he not really underated but amazing shavo of soad (my fave used to be mark huppos of blink)
Thu, 09/22/2005 - 7:34pm
#20
I'd have to say Lemmy or Tim Comerford (the dude from Rage and AudioSlave)
Thu, 09/22/2005 - 7:48pm
#21
John Taylor of Duran Duran
Thu, 09/22/2005 - 7:54pm
#22
Sean Anderson of Finger Eleven.
And, most of the metal/numetal fans in my area don't like Ryan Martini of Mudvayne too much. He's great like frosted flakes!
Fri, 09/23/2005 - 12:36am
#23
Quote (ODIETHEROADY @ Sep. 22 2005,9:48) wrote:
John Taylor of Duran Duran
It's a good thing he is getting his well-deserved recognition these days instead. Even if it's just among us uglies that's what counts!
Mick Karn btw, when you speak of the devil... there is one deadly serious music mag here in sweden (musikermagasinet) this month's cover story was on Mick Karn -thumbs up!
Fri, 09/23/2005 - 6:40am
#24
Quote (puddingsnack @ Sep. 22 2005,8:54) wrote:
Sean Anderson of Finger Eleven.
And, most of the metal/numetal fans in my area don't like Ryan Martini of Mudvayne too much. He's great like frosted flakes!
saw mudvayne not too long ago in toronto... not often you see a metal band where the ugly is playn circles around the twanger... great player....
ps... went to school with sean anderson years ago in burlington.. good guy. always got overlooked cuz the rest of his band is jumpin all over the place while he was just chillin in the back. finger eleven used to be alot more funk/metal in the old days... solid grooves
Fri, 09/23/2005 - 7:38am
#25
I saw John Taylor with Duran Duran in March of this year. One of the most brilliant bass players ever! He is always in my top 5 (usually closer to one) so I never think of him as underrated.
H
Fri, 09/23/2005 - 8:33am
#26
Quote (Headle @ Sep. 23 2005,8:38) wrote:
I saw John Taylor with Duran Duran in March of this year. One of the most brilliant bass players ever! He is always in my top 5 (usually closer to one) so I never think of him as underrated.
H
Taylor like Sarzo never got their props for one reason or the other.Taylor because he was in a pop band ,which usually does not consider musicianship. Sarzo ,because he was usually over-shadowed by the people he played with. Quite Riot, Ozzy, Whitesnake etc, etc.
I saw Sarzo with Whitesnake ,I closed my eyes and tried to cut everything out but bass....he was a freaking machine. I call him one of my earliest influences.
Met Sarzo's brother Robert, in Syracuse when he was with Hurricane.He was also quite talented to. Must be a Cuban thing ? LOL
Fri, 09/23/2005 - 9:10am
#27
Quiet Riot was the first Metal band I Chose to listen to and I've been loving Rudy's style my whole life.
H
Fri, 09/23/2005 - 2:29pm
#28
There was actually alot more to Rudy's playing than I had actually considered. A solid, tight bass player won't get as much attention from the masses because he blends in so well. But us UGLIES know better. There is strength in a nice tight groove!
Huh.....Groove ,pocket....sounds almost sexual !I suppose thats probably the point right. Rock-101 ! LOL
Mon, 09/26/2005 - 4:06am
#29
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I'm of the opinion that every damn bassist out there is underrated. Unless a person is musically inclined, or a bassist, very few people can name the bottom dweller in their favorite band, let alone the name of the bassist from Cream, or __(fill in the blank)...
Mon, 09/26/2005 - 5:29am
#30
Quote (ink_collector @ Sep. 26 2005,6:06) wrote:
I'm of the opinion that every damn bassist out there is underrated. Unless a person is musically inclined, or a bassist, very few people can name the bottom dweller in their favorite band,
true, but I can't name stinkys or twangers so I'm just as bad
Tue, 09/27/2005 - 11:07am
#31
I thought about this a lot and would like to add the following for your consideration...
KEANU REEVES
Okay, that was a pretty lame joke but the man is NEO after all and he does play the 4 wire. LOL
Mon, 10/03/2005 - 1:06am
#32
Jesus, he's too pretty to be an ugly
Tue, 10/04/2005 - 7:57pm
#33
I can't thik of the dudes name,but the bass player from Foghat,yeha I know thats pretty old school but listen to slow ride,some pretty tasty chops there and still relevent till this day.Really inspired me as a kid and still does today.
Tue, 10/04/2005 - 8:07pm
#34
How about John paul Jones from Led Zepplin? one of the most influential bands of all times,but all you ever here about is how great Paige, Plant and Bohnam were but what about poor old John paul?
Wed, 10/05/2005 - 1:50am
#35
Quote (sbassgroove @ Oct. 04 2005,9:07) wrote:
How about John paul Jones from Led Zepplin? one of the most influential bands of all times,but all you ever here about is how great Paige, Plant and Bohnam were but what about poor old John paul?
werd. Check out How the West Was Won and the DVD. Jonesy is playing bass, upright bass, keyboards, mandolin and bass pedals. (not all at the same time though)
Wed, 10/05/2005 - 5:06am
#36
He is given credit for being a musical anchor within the group. He was the man who knew how to put things together, arranging and solidifying everything to perfection. But he didn't flash his stuff like Page and Plant did.
Wed, 10/05/2005 - 6:19am
#37
Where's the love for Michael Anthony? There wouldn't be any of the 80's guitar rock if it weren't for him and VH.
Wed, 10/05/2005 - 8:34am
#38
Wow Snuffy hit a sesitive one on the head. MA is definitely underrated. Much like Cliff Williams of AC/DC very solid and dead accurate but not very technical. You don't have to be a fretboard gymnast to be an awesome bassist though. Nice call Snuffy!
But here's one that never get's mentioned but has done more than his fair share for rock music over the last 25 years....
Jack Blades!
OMG how could we have missed him!?!
H
Wed, 10/05/2005 - 1:37pm
#39
Heres a thought on 80's rock,how about Kip Winger.I know winger was a little bit wimpy and bubble gummy,but can any one rember who he played with before that.Thats right ALICE COOPER! and he really rocked back then,you kinda have to have the goods to play for Alice
Wed, 10/05/2005 - 1:46pm
#40
I'll second that!
H
Wed, 10/05/2005 - 1:52pm
#41
Oh I totally forgot about Kip, Dreamy Kip! I am finally cured of my Hasselhoff addictions. And lucky me, Kip was even in Playgirl.
Wed, 10/05/2005 - 2:58pm
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Thu, 10/06/2005 - 10:07pm
#43
I'm goin with Headle...
Thu, 10/06/2005 - 11:01pm
#44
deLeo of STP, Jeff Ament of PJ
Fri, 10/07/2005 - 1:38pm
#45
Quote (4 string thing @ Sep. 22 2005,8:34) wrote:
or Tim Comerford (the dude from Rage and AudioSlave)
I agree. Commerford's woirk is awesome, but he rarely gets mentioned around here until recently. Ofcourse I've been on a big Commerford kick for the last week since I downloaded all the audioslave tunes.
Fri, 10/07/2005 - 7:48pm
#46
ive been a commerford fan for a long time i love rage against the machine i got a few pics of him on my wall from a bass guitar mag a while back i spent months trying to master his bass solo on the beginign of calm like a bomb(rage against the machine song)
Fri, 10/07/2005 - 11:39pm
#47
P-Nut aka Aaron Wills.. Damn right ;) 311's master of the strings....
Now if some of you haven't heard anything by 311, check out some of their older stuff...
Mon, 10/10/2005 - 5:22pm
#48
Two guys no longer with us that I've always liked are Allen Woody (Allman Brothers, Gov't Mule) and Bobby Sheehan (Blues Traveler).
Sheehan, the original bass player for BT, had what I would call a muscular sound. (There's a lot more to that band than Run-A-Round. 
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Mon, 10/10/2005 - 5:57pm
#49
+1 to what Dusty said.
While Run-Around is a great song, there are so many great songs that Blues Traveler did, I think Four is a great album all-around
and I think Gov't Mule's Thorazine Shuffle is one of the thickest grooves I've heard in a while
Mon, 10/10/2005 - 7:45pm
#50
Two guys that come to mind:
Chuck Wright - Love his playing on the House of Lords and Quiet Riot Albums.
Jeff Pilson - Great bass playing, great background vocals, great entertainer.
I hardly think Trujillo is underrated... he seems to get lots of props.
Colin Moulding of XTC, Mick Karn of Japan... two of my faves that don't get much attention.
I don't have to f*@#%*g impress you! -Stewie Griffin