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DDD cures neck dive...

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hello.

I dont know if any of you have done this yet, but here it is...

so im at home, and I should be studying, but im taking a break (promotion test next week).

Im putting straplocks on my EB-3 and thinking where to move the strap buttons to eleviate the TERRIBLE neck dive.

then it occurs to me, add a counterweight.

so I happen to have some leg weights laying around, I took two of the weights from inside and duct taped them to my strap as so:

and viola! no more neck dive.... heres a pic I took of myself with the EB-3 hanging free and not slamming headstock first into the ground!

the way the strap hangs you cant even see the weights... I will probably come up with some sort of sleeve that will fit over it so its more aesthetically pleasing... havent really noticed or felt the effects of the extra weight (I like heavy basses though and the EB-3 is fairly light)

so if you want to use this idea, it works killer. unless you already thought of it then nevermind hahahahahahaha...

now I can play this bass even more!!!

rock.

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I think my brother has that shirt...

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so about how much weight did you use?

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Im guessing its about 2-3 pounds or so... Id like to find heavier smaller weights, but these will do for now...

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Seat belt shoulder pad would be a nice Sleeve for that and about the right size too! Good invention dude!..The body on my Hamer is very heavy and so far I haven't had this problem with the short scale!

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Very cool

Take a black sock and cut off the toes.

Ta Daa!

Weight cover.

You could use a paisley sock, too!

For added new wave coolness!

To quote DDD-------Rockkkk!

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Anytime I've had a problem with neck-dive, simply switching to a leather strap solved the problem.

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yep, I tried out the leather strap from my 6er first... it still neck dived a bit, but due to the grippyness of the leather it was taking my shirt with it! That is no fun... hehehe... the EB-3 is really crazy off balance but it plays awesome so I had to do something different. Maybe if I got a really really wide leather strap? Hmmmm...

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yet another use for duct tape :D

my Kramer had that problem but they put a strap button under the top horn at the tip

using that button didn't completely eliminate the neck dive, but it helped

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I was also experimenting with different strap button placement... thats how I (mostly) fixed the neck dive on my thunderbird, but no matter where I put the strap it was still crazy off balance... Im going to rock this until I can find a really wide leather strap to try out...

but this was free so yeh, word heheheheheheee...

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masterofchains;135490 wrote:
I think my brother has that shirt...

I've got it in white.... :o Me and DDD actually share some wardrobe items. Be afeerd, people, be very afeerd.

I was actually hoping to see a large phallic Warwick style upper horn molded in JB Weld onto the EB3. Oh well, maybe next time...

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DDanDevious;135510 wrote:
I was also experimenting with different strap button placement... thats how I (mostly) fixed the neck dive on my thunderbird, but no matter where I put the strap it was still crazy off balance... Im going to rock this until I can find a really wide leather strap to try out...

but this was free so yeh, word heheheheheheee...

rock.

DDD

that's odd....

my gibby tbird sits very still on me

maybe it's my belly holding it up :D

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oldfclefer;135539 wrote:
that's odd....

my gibby tbird sits very still on me

maybe it's my belly holding it up :D

I have found that if you locate the rear strap button higher on the butt and let more of the body hang below the strap theneck dive is much less. also a strap button on the backside of the horn or through the neckplate helps a bunch as well. Either tat or buy a Fender, they hang just fine. :D

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DDanDevious;135484 wrote:

Soon as I saw this picture I had one thought, I am sure others did as well

The UBP DDD Bobble Head :D

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yeah moving the rear button towards you helps a ton........

you might try lighter tuning machines and a heavier bridge too.

Headle;135558 wrote:
I have found that if you locate the rear strap button higher on the butt and let more of the body hang below the strap theneck dive is much less. also a strap button on the backside of the horn or through the neckplate helps a bunch as well. Either tat or buy a Fender, they hang just fine. :D

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Doesn't that thing have too many knobs for you?
You should take them out and fill the holes with lead:)

Good idea though, fortunately both my basses are light and balance good. Heavy basses kill my back.

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yep, as stated before, I tried moving the strap around to a few different places (with the aid of duct tape) but the body is very short and stubby so its pretty unbalanced all over... I would get lighter tuning pegs, but they cost like, money and stuff hahahaha... I do want a different bridge though, cant stand the three point gibson bridge.

right now im looking at getting a thick thick leather strap, but until then im rockin the weightstrap hahahaha..

rock.

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Headle;135558 wrote:
Either tat or buy a Fender, they hang just fine. :D

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I am trying to order a DDD bobble head doll

this number isnt working

888-DDD-BOBL

anyone got the right number?

big al

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Thank you DDD! I've always had this problem! I'll get some weights.

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Yes, I also have the Epi EB3. I like everything about this bass but the neckdive is just too much. I also was thinking about moving the strap button to the inside of the horn, like on my Gibson G3. But I am still waiting for my Gibson SG Reissue Surpreme to arrive. This one is short scale and I think the body is a little bit heavier so it might be more balanced.

I have to say I like the Gibson/Epi three point bridges, the sustain is killer because of that.
DDD I would'n replace it if I were you.

Also the neck from the Epi is quite long so you have to reach more if you want to play the in the first position.

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Duuuuude...

I hadn't noticed how cool the EB was.

Grats on the good idea. Keep rocking it.

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Pretty ingenious idea, Way to go DDD!

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I've never had a neck diving problem (knock on wood) but that looks like a simple household fix! Good thinking man.

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'Round these here parts we treasure the stylistic appearance of duct tape. I say forget the sock and leave it as is!!!!!!

Rock on!

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The easy thing for the tape would be using gaff tape instead, or over the top.

Sounds like you've got it all figured out. I was going to suggest the same thing. My G&L has a mild case of the neck dive and the leather strap was just the ticket.

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this can also be used as a weapon if I need it. In case a bar brawl breaks out while you are playing...

so thats handy as well...

im shopping around for a bigger leather strap... I have a standard like inch-inchanahalf leather strap that I tried and the neck is pretty much winning that battle... it still felt like I was having to hold the neck up a bit... but if this works out alright I'll probably just keep it so I dont have to shell out the cash for a new strap hahahahaha... im cheap sometimes.

I'll let you know after a few practices how it feels.

rock.

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DDanDevious;135609 wrote:

im shopping around for a bigger leather strap... I have a standard like inch-inchanahalf leather strap that I tried and the neck is pretty much winning that battle... it still felt like I was having to hold the neck up a bit... but if this works out alright I'll probably just keep it so I dont have to shell out the cash for a new strap hahahahaha... im cheap sometimes.

rock.

DDD

And I was just waiting for the opportunity to tell of a redneck rememdy to costly wide straps. Here's what I did: Levy makes a strap that's 3 wide for about $15. My only problem with it was they come with some designs on them that I really didn't care for, here's the one I got http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Levys-Eye-of-the-Dragon-Nylon-3-Strap?sku=360047. Next you go to Wal Mart and buy a cheap can of brown spray paint. Soon after you will have a cool, wide, and cheap strap.

**Note: The strap will be a little stiff for a while after spraying it so make sure you have the strap adjusted to where you want it prior to painting, adjustments will be difficult until it has worn a bit. And don't worry about the paint running onto the leather ends, it kinda looks like brown blood which only adds to the coolness. C-ya at the potted meat eatin' contest!

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ddd with duct tape

axl with spray paint

damn hillbillies:p

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One for the archives! :)

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hehehe, yeh it is... me in my geek squad shirt with my Lost toys hanging up behind me... you can also see my framed page of the directors notes from Return of the Jedi... im such a nerd.

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Aren't we all? :D

btw... do I recognize your avatar from Conan the barbarian?

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.. although i will have to kill melker if he quits playin' bass..

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no its Return of the Jedi!

Princess Leia in the slave girl outfit...

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epi t-birs have horrible neck dive aswell.....

epiphone really should sort there bass's out better

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Melker;135643 wrote:
Aren't we all? :D

btw... do I recognize your avatar from Conan the barbarian?

ooooohhhhhhh, swing and a miss!

tsk tsk padowan. :rolleyes: ;)

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